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Councillor Green Addresses the China Gateway Vote

Councillor David Green has addressed the China Gateway vote in a blog posting. In his post he praised the efforts of Michael Child to [...] get the Council to include more of the statutary consultees comments so the public can see them. In his post Cllr Green detailed that he had read all relevant documents and undertaken site visits and consultations over and above the minimum expected of him.

Cllr Green was very clear that he had yet to reach a conclusion as to how he will vote although commenters have speculated this is to avoid being removed from the vote. Similarly he addressed the issue of the donations to his party from the developer and if it had biased his opinion. I have concluded that it has not he said.

Councillor David Green also joined Cllr Chris Wells in calling for the debate to be broadcast. There is too much distrust of Councillors around this issue, said Cllr Green, broadcasting the meeting might help the public to understand the issues as they are put in a Planning context. I understand that the Planning Committee is already routinely recorded, so there is no excuse in not broadcasting it, even if it cannot be done live.
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The Campaign to Save Ramsgate Maritime Museum

Local residents not so keen on the closure of the Maritime Museum in Ramsgate have started a facebook "cause" to raise money to get it reopened. Is this a case of "you don't know what you got 'till it's gone" or too little too late. I joined up with the group to find out.

Save Ramsgate Maritime Museum is a small group having just started recently. It has already achieved 16 members and US$0.00 donated.

Okay so this is not the worlds biggest group (yet) but if other face book groups are anything to go buy then we can expect to see a few thousand members. All signs point to this group being less than 24 hours old so this is possibly a huge start.

My question is - who handles the money and how will it be spent? The answer to this question will have a massive impact on how effective a fund raiser this group (cause in facebook speak) is going to be.
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TDC refuse to repair Broadly Road

Thanet District Council have refused to remove dangerous rubble from the middle of a road widely used by school children travelling from and to Dane Valley. According to TDC Broadly Road is not their responsibility and so no action will be taken.

Broadly Road is an "unmade road" that connects Dane Valley with the A255. This means that the quality of the road is far below the usual standard of neglect for roads in Thanet being, in places, little more than a network of potholes. The use of this road, while not for everyone, reduces journey time significantly for journeys between. (see the map below). To most this public right of way is simply known as "the track".


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At the tip: Ask if you need help?

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Ask if you need help is what the blue sign said. This sign is located at the local waste disposal site (tip to you and I). It says to me that if you are need of help it is available but as a friend of mine discovered these things can not be taken for granted.

A friend of the family (let us call him John to protect him) often uses a stick to walk having the full use of his left arm and right leg following a road accident in which he was almost killed. John, being a decent sort of person, went along with an elderly gentleman to take some old carpets to be disposed of. The gentleman in question is less able due to the passage of time than John, needing a stick to even walk and then is limited as to how far he can go.

These two disabled guys were in a van that was just slightly too tall to fit under the barrier. John saw the blue sign and asked for help.

I would not call what happened help.

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Could Thanet have a directly elected mayor within a year?

Changes in the law could mean that Thanet has a Mayor before the end of 2009. Claiming The state should be a platform under people’s feet, not a weight holding them down a government White Paper (p.13 "Communities in Control: Real People, Real Power" (9th July 2008)) from the Secretary of State for Communities (Hazel Blears MP) calls for a number of changes including incentives for voting and consultation on ways to make it easier to have a directly elected mayor.

So does this mean that a directly elected mayor is likely within the next year?

It has already been suggested and debated that Thanet could be better off with an elected mayor rather than a cabinet "leader". The government position on the subject of elected mayors is that they are the "way forward" and despite Thanet District Council being run by the "other party" they may soon face a change. The force of this change comes from the fact that the government is very keen to see more people vote and with only about 30% of Thanet's population currently voting there are far more unknown votes around here than "known".

In short the swing vote could become the majority.

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Night Clubs Closing - Have Your Say

I'm not really one for "clubbing" and so might not have noticed that Rainy's (Ramsgate) and DV8 (Margate) had closed but for the fact that I happened to glance at a copy of the Adscene.

The blame for these closures is being placed on the Credit Crunch but also on changes in smoking laws and late licenses. Admittedly these are clubs that catered to a tighter niche than one of Frank's usual venues but is this the sign of a bigger "nothing to do" that a crashing economy brings?

I'm opening the floor to all comers as I invite you to speculate on the broader impact of such events on our lives over the next few years.

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Myths of Thanet's Poverty

This post is in largely in answer to Rick's comment's yesterday and the day before (18:08:47 and 07:38:02) on the post Will the poor pay for Thanet budget deficit? It is not an attack but a considered answer to some held-to-be-true myths about poverty in Thanet. Some of this conversation might have taken place on rick's blog had he enabled OpenID authentication.

Background: The article "Will the poor pay for Thanet budget deficit?" addresses some facts released by Cllr David Green and adds information privately reported to me. The conclusion is that the Council Tax Benefit section may be working to hard to reduce costs by removing claimants by hook or by crook. In his first comment (18:08:47) Rick brings up the common myth that the poor are actually all cheats and goes on to expose us to the even more common myth that the poor are poor through their own fault. You may wish to read these first.

Reply: Rick, the question at hand is not how well or badly the private sector spends public money nor how deserving they are of that money. I have no doubt your own investigations have been as colorful as they have been shocking to you and I appreciate that you are driven by your own passion for justice.

That is a most admirable thing and something that the world may even need more of. However we are looking at the need of those the country as a whole chooses to demonise rather than address. We that have jobs may feel bad that there are those that do not work for their money. Mrs Gates does not work for her money - her husband Bill Gates is, through a series or luck breaks, one of the richest men in the world but, unless we are quite the "hard core" communist, we do not begrudge Mr and Mrs Gates their wealth.

We do not begrudge them because we would like to be like that but we are willing to accept blindly whatever tosh is spouted about those worse off than ourselves because we feel they should be like us.

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Will the poor pay for Thanet budget deficit?

I have said before that the way the council currently treats benefit claiments indicates a hole in the budget and now Labour Party blogger David Green has as good as said so.

According to the national average 21% of children in the UK are from families with out of work benefits. The (link) lists 12 wards where the percentage of children on benefits is at least twice the national average and Thanet figures twice on that list! Just under half of all children in parts of Thanet are likewise considered poor. 42.4% of kids in Newington and 42.1% of kids in Dane Valley suffer hardship.

The BBC (from whence come these figures) quotes Steve Ladyman being very upbeat about the prospects of lifting all Children out of poverty. I do not share his optimism and I will try to show you what I am so worried about.

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On the Threshold of a Dream

Yesterday my sister (previous mentioned here), my daughter and I popped along to he to look at the art there. My sister needed to take in a contemporary exhibit in order to write an essay for here art cause and I fancied getting out a bit more (I'm well known for being a bit shy and withdrawn in real life). The art was good the exit was not.

Shortly before we left a small gang of youths entered and were clearly both interested and baffled by the exhibit and the tiny staff failed to engage with the boys in a way that opened the art up to them and they left. My little girl (4 years old), my sister and me were treated to a peppering of stones by the lads who clearly recognised us from seeing us in the exhibit.

On reflection this was simply a reaction to cover the embarrassment of a cultural blockage that divides so many from the world of art. Were it not for some early and fanciful A level choices in my life I too might have found this exhibit incomprehensible. This review, therefore, is written in the hope that it will open things up for those of us in Thanet that might not otherwise understand or be able to get something out of contemporary art.

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Panteli's Cafe - Reviewed

In order to kill a little time while my sister's car was being repaired we took a trip to Panteli's in Northdown road. Our choice was entirely due to the fact that it came highly recommended by my wife and it was near to the outfit that was repairing my sister's car. I forget the name of the place but it's on the corner of Sweyn Road and Northdown Road (Google's not much help so I'm guessing they don't have much web presence yet).


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Any how My wife, my oldest, my sister and I took a trip to Panteli's to eat some lunch and kill some time. It's not the worlds most impressive establishment but it has the stuff where it matters most. It feels friendly and relaxed from the moment you walk in and all the staff seem to great you with a smile.

Such a natural warm welcome is hard to to come by these days and combine that with the relaxed atmosphere and there were already doing great. Obviously Panteli's is "just" a cafe - this is no gourmet dinning experience but the food is well presented, not at all greasy and of quite a high standard as cafes go. The right balance of price and quality.

Plus they do ice creme in a whole bunch of flavours.

I vaguely recall going in there back when smoking inside such places was normal and legal and it has improved things no end now that the air is relatively smoke free however when the wind blows "just so" the strong smell of cigarettes blows in from those sitting outside. Even so this did not reduce the overall experience of one of Thanet's better non-expensive cafes.

If you like to dine in a cafe that makes you feel like part of the family then Panteli's is for you. On the other hand if you like you meal cooked by the head chief then a cafe is not for you in the first palce. Next time you are in the area give it a try and don't forget to mention we sent you.
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Thanet's Night Clubs Closing - Have Your Say Now

Pending an announcement from Frank Thorley Frank's nightclub in Cliftonville could be reopened. Yet with so many others closing what is the future going to be like?

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Credit Crunch Costs Thanet 185 Jobs

The credit crunch has cost Thanet 185 jobs according to kentonline.co.uk who have a story detailing how unemployment has risen.

DentaLine update

We recently had an email from someone at the NHS letting us know that the DentaLine nuber had changed. According to the email the correct number is now 01634 890300 and the old number (01227 781818) is no longer in use.

10 Topics on the Mind of Our Bloggers

Looking at the Thanet Blogs Portal there seem to be 10 clear topics that are getting the lions share of the "air time" they seem to be:

Jobs for bloggers

With the KM group loosing so much traction with job losses might now be the time when the local bloggers can take the crown of news reporting?

China Gateway needs public inquiry, says CPRE

The Campaign to Protect Rural England has written to Hazel Blears (Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government) calling for a public inquiry into the proposed China Gateway development according to Kent News. They are worried that the decision is too big for Thanet council to take alone because of “implications that it would have beyond the Thanet district”. Read More.

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