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Dreamland vs Tesco

Is Dreamland the key to Margate's future?

Dreamland (Scenic Railway) - Margate
The guardian is reporting today on the approaching final verdict on Dreamland. In less than two months there will be a four-day public inquiry after which (28th February) the local government secretary, Eric Pickles, is to decide the fate of the site.

Margate waits for verdict on derelict Dreamland amusement park [guardian.co.uk] also picks up on the topic of the proposed Tesco and the admittedly dire tower block that somehow was granted permission to be built so long ago.

Mary Portas (she of whom I have not the highest reputation) has been rightly critical of the Tesco build which, while it might bring a handful of new jobs, will also bring a lot of traffic to an already gridlocked area. Potentially Tesco could, in the long term, cost more in lost employment as those that work outside of Margate are forced to relocate to get passed the seafront gridlock.

This is not just alarmism there are a number of reports strongly critical of the ability of the seafront to handle any more traffic. We are not talking making the place busy but making it unusable and unsafe. Our main train station is the other side of the round about most likely to gridlock. That means that people coming to the new dreamland or to the revived high street (we can live in hope) must first pass through an excessive traffic area. so for the short term gain of a handful of jobs we could loose enough businesses to employ tens of times as many people.

If it came to a case of Dreamland Vs Tesco how would you vote?

On the one hand Tesco might bring, say, 40 jobs to the area but very little new visitors. The ugly tower block might get renovated a bit too. The cost is traffic chaos and possibly a reduction in visitors to the town, Dreamland and the Turner Centre. Cost in jobs twenty shops, a heritage park and an art gallery. Net loss.

On the other hand with Dreamland being built instead traffic flows into Margate. Thus the shops will perk up (jobs) and the park will employ, say, between 30 and 80 people. The increase of economic activity in the town should lead to further jobs and that in tern to more economic activity. While we might get "just as many jobs" as Tesco could have given us we also have a tourist trade again.

Given the choice there is no choice.
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Shinguard wrote this comment:

The decision has to be for a smaller size Tesco similar to the one in Cliftonville or possibly Manston, certainly not the size of the one at Westwood.

Hopefully then you still get the Tesco investment and improvements to Arlington plus the jobs but not the traffic chaos, along with the Dreamland plan including more housing a supermarket built in that area does have its merits.
26/12/2012 13:01:40

Matt B wrote this comment:

Bluewater are unlikely to want to spend the money unless they can earn it back. Big spend small shop... unlikely.
26/12/2012 17:46:41

Peter Checksfield wrote this comment:

Matt, you seem to mistakenly think that there is either going to be another Dreamland public enquiry or the first one didn’t happen. Maybe you know something no-one else does?
26/12/2012 19:13:37

tony2 wrote this comment:

Why not site Tesco in the top end of our high street and increase the footfall there. There are plenty of shops empty that could be knocked together.
The developer has let this site go derelict so we should not reward them with the benefits of this development at the cost of our town.
27/12/2012 10:46:40

Matt B wrote this comment:

Peter, I am only commenting on what the Guardian has reported. You seem to be suggesting that they are making things up - if you know something the rest of us do not...

Tony, that would be a better idea. Sadly this initiative is not Tesco's it is Bluewater's because they own the site.
27/12/2012 11:35:59

dave wrote this comment:

What the Guardian actual reported-
"the site's owner, Margate Town Centre Regeneration Company Ltd, lodged anappeal against Thanet district council's compulsory purchase order"
and
"Following a four-day public inquiry, the local government secretary, Eric Pickles, is to decide the fate of the site on 28 February."
A bit different from there being another public inquiry Matt.

Can TDC afford to borrow their share of the CPO? Maybe thats why they are keen to sell Pleasurama.

The difference between Tescos development and Dreamland Heritage is that Tesco's would have done their market research and know how much custom and profit they will make whereas DreamLand is just a shot in the dark.
27/12/2012 11:54:26

Peter Checksfield wrote this comment:

Dave is correct, you simply misinterpreted the report. Surely you didn't really expect a 2nd enquiry?

Tesco will bring far more people into Margate than Dreamland (no chance of any traffic problems with people visiting knackered old rides that no-one else wants!).
27/12/2012 12:26:42

Peter Checksfield wrote this comment:

Anyway they should concentrate on building a new funfare in Ramsgate instead (if not the Pleasurama site then somewhere else). Seems like Margate gets all the funding.
27/12/2012 12:28:19

Matt B wrote this comment:

The original public inquiry lasted five weeks but the guardian is quit clearly talking about a four day public inquiry. You guys tell me.
27/12/2012 13:56:17

Peter Checksfield wrote this comment:

We've already told you, there will NOT be another public enquiry. However if you don't believe us then why not do a bit of research and contact a few of the people who've campaigned for (or against) all this? There's plenty of local people on blogs, Facebook, Twitter, etc (I'd start with Louise Oldfield over on the well-researched Margate Architecture blog if I was you).
27/12/2012 16:04:37

Matt B wrote this comment:

The only other answer is that Alexandra Topping is talking from the backside.
28/12/2012 10:21:28

Peter Checksfield wrote this comment:

In other words you can't be bothered to do any further research... fortunately for you I have done.
28/12/2012 11:10:11

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