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China Gateway - What now?

If you have been keeping an eye on the latest posts you will no doubt already be aware that the development proposal (known as the ) has been defered to a full meeting of the council. What does this mean and where do we go from here? This is the quetion I hope to be looking at in this post.

That disision was carried by the slimest of margins. Had even one councillor obstained or voted agaisnt this move thent he planning would have already been aproaved - something that many strongly feel would not be a wise or good move. Unusually for a planning application the gallery was quite full and it was clear that this was a subject that mattered to a large number of people.

The final vote was 8 votes for deferal to 7 against. The news was greeted by cheers and applause from many who had filed in to watch the meeting according to kentnews.co.uk.

It was clear that almsot all that opposed the idea felt a cynicall sense of hopelessness in the face of a council well rumoured to do exactly as it pleases. Kent News highlighted this best with their quote from one campaigner who opposed to the project: I’m shocked but happy. This is totally unexpected he is reported to have said.


This sense of hopelessness agaisnt the will of so few people comes out time and again with the likes of Counillor green asking Is the Council compromised? reporting Richard Nicholson belief the "council leader" was making an attempt at influencing decisions yet to be taken.

Indeed long time Thanet pundit Tony Flaig commented prior to the meeting in question that public opinion and common-sense rarely triumphs over money, and I sure tonight will be no exception. For now the unlikely seems to ahve been proven true and for no common-senseseems to be in charge if only by a very slim margin.

So now that the China Gateway has been posponed what can we learn and what happens now.

Normally a such a deferal would necessitate a lengthy delay while documents are prepared for councillors and questions are answered in further detail. I understand that a break of six months is not unexpected at this scale of things. Odd then that the meeting of the full council is in just a few weeks time.

Why has the meeting been called so quickly and who benefits from it? Do those who are opposed gain an advantage by rushing the application and thus hurting it's chances or do those wanting to force the issue through at speed have an advantage?

I can see no particular advantage for any of these suggested beneficieries which leaves many questions unanswered. Regulars of Michael Child's Thanet Online blog have been discussing the news for the last four days.

It is on his blog that Michael's cheif concern is put most sucinetly int he comments. The issue is that to conform to regulations the layout must be rearranged and [...] the X types are as large as aircraft hangers this means that the whole layout of the site would need to be changed, so the application is not ready in any sense to come before planning. [link]

There is no apparent statutory minimum and so this speedy hearing is legal but who exactly does it serve - who saves face? The fact that no one saves face in public sggests to me that one or more groups of people have made promises and now require the due process to back them up.

I am no expert but would that not be a further breach of trust?

Further, that is, to the documents found suggesting some Councillors were "naughty" during the planning and arrangment process. (Mentioned here but not published online by the papers). The result was a suggestion that , and were ready to resign in protest over the actions of their "team mates" - something that has raised my opinion of all three somewhat although the end result was inaction.

Frankly forcing an ellection at local level would have done wonders to raise public awareness and may have been a good move. Even a mass resignation from the party woud have had just a good an impact. Sadly this did not happen.

Yet the irregularities do not stop with potential back handers, preapproval (recomentation to approve) and a rushed meeting. Michael Child reports that there is a suggestion that this will be a whipped vote.

For those that are unclear what this might mean I can share (care of the wikipeida: Whip is a role in party-based politics whose primary purpose is to ensure control of the formal decision-making process in a parliamentary legislature. Whips are party 'enforcers', who typically offer both inducements and punishments to party members.

This would make the planning process a party political vote.

Cllr. Mike Harrison was first to comment saying I cant speak for the Tory Group but Labour Group rules are quite specific about there NOT being a whip on ANY Planning application. he went on to add I also believe its against the law.

so what happens now?

This all depends on a number of factors.

First if there is finding that leads to criminal prosicutions it could potentially be used to nvalidate any planning consent.

Second if the whip is used and this is not legal then again this could be used to invalidte the consent and things would have to be started from scratch. (Not to mention that there woud have to be an investigation).

If the vote is whipped and goes through and is legal and survives challenges basd on crimes commetned by people during the planning it could still end the political carrier of many or further alienate the people and the political classes that should the people in general become motivated to vote all sorts of maveric and fringe groups could claim power.

Even if this does not necessarily happen and planning goes through it will serve only to confirm the most cynical opinions of people about the political classes. To be honest the best possible long term reult for each party is to see this planning application struck down quite soundly. anything less will commit long term hurt to co-opperation between the governed and the governing.

So that is my unquie take on maters now ovedr to you - where do we go from here and what are the most likely outcomes?

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Andew Bean wrote:

Why are we all such hypocrits in Thanet, we have had so many chances for economic growth that have been flushed away by people most of whom have never grown up in an area that has had the economic deprevation that Thanet has suffered over the last 30 years, Yes ken Wills will make money but thats the nature of all business however as a true Thanetonian born and bread her who had to leave to gain employment because of the lack of emploment prospects we all faced in Thanet from the late 1970's onwards and in many respects still o, I say if you've come here as migrants of the urban sprawl to retire of for a quiet life tuff!!! Thanet has as much rite as any other community to see economic development for the benefit of its own future generations, the same economic development that gave people who have moved here their living elsewhere and who now profess to know what is best for the people of Thanet, hypocrasy indeed, we have lost so many chances in the past for economic growth why should we be left behind again, I say bring it on the days where interfearing indviduals can affect our furure like thoes that forced the closure of the worlds first fully operational hoverport back in the 1970's because they felt that the noise would advearsley affect the price of their property is over, Our time has fnaly come, China Gateway Bring it on!! Thanet Earth Bring It on!!! London Array bring it on!!! high speed rail link bring it on!!! Turner Centre bring it on!!! redevelopment of Dreamland for leisure and new homes bring it on!!! Eurokent & Westwood Cross bring it on!!! if you have children as I do and you want them to grow up in an area where they dont have to move to get a job shut up moaning and support Thanets growth and regeneration, if you aren't from Thanet but have moved hear for cheaper homes or a quiet life simply go back where you came from, if you can afford to now that is, Oh and for all of the people constantly knocking China if you feel so strongly I have no doubt you will be throwing out every peice of electrical equipment, furniture, clothing, and of course motor vehicles from your homes as 99% of them are either manufactured or contain componants that are manufactured in China and that why you can afford to buy them!! so if your not going to throw them all away and make a moral stand for your convictions stop being such hypocrits and do us all a favour and belt up. And finnaly for thoes people from mediocracy who have no stake in Thanet's future who make films and organise rallies in order to further their own profile as chanpions of the earth and protectors of the water supply at Manston who tell us economic growth is bad and that we won't bennefit but we will pay because our water will be contaminated I say your are about 30 years to late don't you know that all of the surrounding area around the base has had abnormally high levels of background radiation ever since the USAF used it as a nuclear ordenance storage facility during their occupation until the late 1980's and further to this if the drainage system to the development is appropiately designed the gatering of water will be even more efficient than it is now and will still filterd through the chalk the same way it is now, so to these people I say do your home work better next time and why don't you go get a life or open a cats home or do something else that actually has some value to it like help the local elderly citizens of Thanet survive this winter with the criminaly high fuel prices they will have to pay to heat their homes, if you feel the need to fight the good fight then do it for something worth while like that and allow the children of Thanet the chance to get a job without having to leave their heritage and families behind by moving away from the area to have a chance of a career for them selves as so many of us had to in the past,
14/09/2008 00:37:56

Matt B wrote:

Thank you for your comment, Andew Bean, I take it you are coming from an assumption that all development equates to regeneration? I think the worry is more that some developments will use up rare local and natural resources (such as the "bandwidth" of roads, key locations etc) disproportionately to the benefit they return.

What I hear from a lot of people is not that they are against all developments (I often hear suggestions of better sites and similar) but I am hearing from a lot of people that some (China Gateway) may present a case where the cost not in money but in those things which limit us all being too high.

In the China Gateway situation I'm seeing a lot of people worry about drinking water and some have ideas about where else the project could more safely be built. I also hear a lot of worry that our roads are not yet good enough for it. Many people look at Westwood cross and although most people seem to love it those same people complain about the roads which were not of a high enough "bandwidth".

Only a very strange or foolish person would not want any development and in today's economic and cultural climate that does mean building things (largely).

The big constant is not so much (I think) that people object to the developments for their own sake but to the cost to benefit ratio.

The cost of something is not just the money but also any negative impact it may have, the changes it will make and the opportunities that are no longer available. I see a lot of people focused on one or the other but not so much comparing them but that is because we are human beings and creatures of passion.
16/09/2008 08:39:33

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